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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 14:50:04 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Black Pedro wrote:Joe Risalo wrote:The data is inherently flawed. The data are not inherently flawed - the data are just the data. It is a fact that new players who leave the NPC corps have a higher rate of subscribing to the game. Looking at this, and the multitude of other data points CCP has in their databases, they have come to the reasonable conclusion that the social interactions afforded by being in a player corporation may have something to do with the higher retention rate of these players. You are entitled to disagree with this conclusion and stamp your feet shouting "correlation does not equal causation" like a first-year philosophy major if you'd like, but you are not entitled to your own facts. And if you are going to ask me to choose whose hypothesis to believe: CCP Rise and his team who have direct access to the detailed histories of hundreds of thousands of players and whose jobs are to increase player retention, and thus the long-term success of the game, or someone who willing to dismiss data because they don't fit his per-conceived narrative, I know who I am going to stand with. Certainly it cannot hurt to try to guide players out of the isolating environment of the NPC corp and into the more social one of a player corp can it? I have not given my perceived narrative Nor does it disagree with player interaction being important. Yes, newbros are more likely to stick around if they experience more player interaction. This DOES NOT mean they will quit because they stayed in an NPC corp. And while "correlation Is not causation" may be year one philosophy, the chicken and the egg question is famous because therehas not been correct or wrong answer (though I do know the true answer.) So, which is correct; newbs in NPC corps quit, or NPC corps cause newbs to quit? The question is irrelevant.
New Players are mostly isolated in npc corps, unless it's CAS. If that wasn't true, CCP wouldn't want people to leave them for player corps. What came first is irrelevant when looking at what currently is. It's just sidetracking from the fact that too many people play isolated and how the npc corps except CAS do their good part in that.
Your question does not bring progress.
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 15:15:48 -
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I feel like you don't believe in what CCP says and you never went through npc corps to check out the situation for yourself. Your question has no rlevance and is actually answered already.
NPC corps do not provide the environment needed to keep players,
as shown by CCP wanting to get people out of them.
The only exceptions are CAS/Scope. |
Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 23:08:53 -
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Hey Yuri, why'd you biomass and recreate ?
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 23:17:08 -
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Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:Solstice Punk wrote:
Hey Yuri, why'd you biomass and recreate ?
That was a mining alt, this is my main.
What ?
You delete a mining alt with the same name and some SP ...
... and instead create a new char and call it main.
That makes no sense at all, you know ?
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:25:27 -
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I object.
They are people who do not wish to defend themselves.
Calling people carebears is too vague and not actually hinting at the right people.
A more descriptive approach is preferrable and gives less ground for an attack.
Thanks.
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:38:30 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Solstice Punk wrote:
Calling people carebears is too vague and not actually hinting at the right people.
Check me out I'm a big bear And really, I care So, would you dare... to call me the right people? Mr Epeen 
Hi the right people.
I have no idea what you want. You're not a carebear and you can defend yourself.
You are also not identifying yourself with your spacechar.
Just saying that carebear as a term is of no use. It actually helps them when people use it.
It needs to be dropped ASAP and replaced with something more descriptive.
They are people who do not wish to defend themselves.
That's so much more accurate on so, so many levels.
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 02:29:45 -
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You two. Cute.
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 07:33:17 -
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Turn current rookiecorps into regular npc corps.
Make npc corps choseable whenever one leaves a playercorp.
Give people information about the activities of players in these corps.
Problem solves itself as good players will spread out into them and drive out the bad players who sent everyone into isolation.
It's a nobrainer, really.
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 08:40:02 -
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Wow that's really immature and childish.
Calm down, miner. This isn't your life, okay ?
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Solstice Punk
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.30 13:45:44 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:BrundleMeth wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yuri Ostrovskoy wrote:So over the last 60 pages, why haven't we seen anyone actually offer any incentives to join thier corps?
For my part, I simply haven't seen anyone posting on the NPC side who I'd want to hang out with. The majority of you are only posting here to defend the racket you have going, and I wouldn't be interested in playing the game with people like that. I have no racket going...and I am an extremely nice guy... Want to join CODE? Our wardec arm has finally finished reorganizing, and we have a bunch of decs going. Or you can join New Order Logistics, and get started with some ganking. We happily accept alts, although if you're just there to spy on our teamspeak you will probably be purged. The only condition is that you have to guess the password to the minerbumping channel. But it should be a pretty easy guess.
"loyal is ***" ... isn't it.
Yeah I just had to.
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